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On the flipside

Many people that I know have often commented on the double standard that seems to exist in my relationship. I am not denying it exists, both my husband and I are well aware of it, but I do want to explain it’s origin and how we work with it.

To explain its origin, I have to go back to the beginning of our relationship. Not our regular relationship, but the new, open side of it. Back in those days, we were almost convinced we were the same person. As I’ve mentioned in previous posts, we did everything together and had lost a little of our own personal identities when we were strictly monogamous. Having always had the same friends, opinions, religious beliefs, musical tastes, political preferences, and etc., it made sense to us that we would react the same to anything this new relationship situation threw at us, right?

Wrong. As we quickly began to discover, we were still very separate people. We shared, and still do share, the same belief system about open relationships, where we want ours to go, how monogamous we really are and so on. What we didn’t share was the same level of tolerance for certain situations. Where, in the beginning, I might have longed for more variety and short term dates, he wanted longer relationships with people. When I would be completely uncomfortable and get emotional / sad / angry with a situation, he would be much more calm.

This was a hard lesson for us. What came of it was the double standard that exists today. There have been a lot of things that I have done that he has been ok with, but I know that if he were to do the same things right now, I wouldn’t be ok with them. Does that make me selfish? Perhaps, yes. However, if you look at the timeline of things, it can be explained with a better justification.

That calls for admission time: During our open relationship I’ve had a few one night stands, sex with girls, sex with girls he’s dated, threesomes, fallen in love, been broken-hearted, been willingly abused, slept with a married man, messed around with a few ‘cheaters’, snuck off for sex and told him about it later, and on his end he’s dated a few girls and shared some with me. Don’t feel bad, it’s not a competition. It is a truth we have noticed that there are more men that are into women in open relationships than there are women into men in the same situation. Plain and simple.

During his tenure there have been some very awkward situations related to the relationships he has been in. Things have happened that have caused quite a bit of marital tension between us, that we have since been able to work out, but have made me a little wary. If the situations that had presented themselves to him had been more frequent, or less dramatic, I do believe I would be on the same level of acceptance as he.

Alas, I am not there. It is difficult to explain to others how I am allowed certain ‘freedoms’ that he is not, without making myself appear like a c*nt. Perhaps it can be explained better using a school scenario. The situations that I have been in, have in turn, given my husband the training he needs to learn how to deal with them; in his own mind, with me and with other people. As he has not been in as many of those situations, I therefore, have not had as much training on how to deal with them, so even though I am well versed in the acts, I am not as well versed in the reactions.

This post is merely to explain to those perhaps going through a similar situation, that it is ok to feel and react differently. We are all individuals and recognizing that you may not be as comfortable as your partner doesn’t make you any weaker than anyone else. With the few couples that I know in open relationships, it is often the women who feel more envy or insecurity. Perhaps that is how we, as women, are programmed, perhaps it’s the individual situations, or perhaps it is merely a coincidence.

Whatever it is, we are constantly learning, and I work hard every day to feel as solid with all of this as my husband always is, and I wish the same for you, in all your relationships.

  • melody

    Just wanted to comment on this wonderful and beautiful open relationship you have going. I myself have always wanted and have been in open relationships in the past with alot of good responce and of course some bad…which I’m sure that happens to all open relationships and “regular” relationships as well. I feel sex is a natural and sensual part of our lives and i dont think i would want to be tied down to one option. I can see you and steph are very loving towards each other and thats what counts..theres no lying…no back stabbing, just 2 people that love each other and have sexual wants and desires.So congrats on you two being able to work a open relationship.woohooo on the sex with women too…so fun!!! gotta love it..xoxox melody

  • Dorian

    My former marriage was an open relationship for 8 years, although often more in theory than in practice. I did all the required “poly” reading, dealt with the jealousy issues, the moral questions, the drawn lines of confidence (close friends knew, acquaintances and family did not) and so forth. That’s just some background to say that I am on the same page as you on a lot of these topics.

    Something that struck a chord for me in this post was your comment that you have found that, by and large, men are more into women in an open relationship than vice versa. This was something that I also noticed while I was in this situation. It seemed very easy for my ex to find lovers who were accepting of her attachment in an open relationship and very difficult for me to do the same.

    Now, I will have to admit that it is entirely possible that I used that notion (that women would not be into a man who was attached) as a way to talk myself out of approaching women. It’s definitely true that in general I was much more reluctant to make advances than she was. I felt uncomfortable presenting my situation to prospective lovers – and the reactions I did receive were usually akin to a perception that I was cheating on my wife. I came off as a slimeball.

    Ultimately, through these factors and others, there came to be a great imbalance in our extra-relationship activities which ultimately did contribute to a breakdown of the marriage (but so did a lot of other things – we didn’t break up just because of the poly).

    I guess it was gratifying, in that self-righteous sort of way, to get some outside confirmation that I am not the only one who has noticed the phenomenon that men are less bothered by than women when it comes to loving it up with someone who is attached. But what do you think is the underlying cause?

  • brenden

    You’re right about the double standard generally – at least from my observations of the male partners of my female partners – they have mostly had that problem. I have certainly felt that way a bit, but I think that this might be a culture/subculture thing to a certain degree – given the crowd I’m involved in and the self-selecting nature of OkCupid and the places i hang out, I haven’t found a lot of problems that way. The problem I do have is with half serious single women who want to give it a try and then can’t deal with polyamoury despite swearing up and down that they can. It’s led to me having more than a few broken hearts. Any thoughts on that?

  • samantha

    Thanks everyone for your comments. This is a tricky one. I will say that I am feeling hopeful that the newer generations are more open to non-monogamy on both the female and male sides, so perhaps this issue will shrink for others in the future.

    Dorian, it’s unfortunate that you felt reluctant to be open about your situation when approaching potential lovers. I think it’s important to be very up front about it, when the situation presents itself. Be proud of who you are, what you have and let the other people make up their own minds. You cannot control if someone is to perceive you as a slimeball for being in an open relationship; and if they do? Then they’re probably not mature enough to handle the situation in the first place.

    Which brings me to Brenden; I know what you mean about the single girls. I am personally wary of the single girls my husband dates, as there have been some attachment issues in the past. I can only say it’s important to lay down ground rules, to ensure that everyone is being respected; you, your primary partner and any outside lovers. If everyone is feeling respected, heard and cared for, things have a better chance of working out.

    Realistically though, there will always be more guys who are into women in open relationships than women into guys who are in them. Maybe I’m generalizing, but my experience has taught me that these guys see it as a hot conquest to land a relationship chick, and women just don’t think the same. Ok, well, not as many anyways.

    There will also always be those who think they can handle something and then realize they can’t. Such is life!